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Three come along at once!

Its been two months since my last post, and things are moving along swimmingly. The new job is going well, but it has had an effect on my hobby time.

However in the past week not one or two but three kickstarters have arrived.

First up we have Hawk Wargames: Dropfleet Commander which I back just before Christmas last year (2015) dscn1023However over time and after receiving the pledge I am on the fence as to weather I want to keep it or not.

Next Up we have the big one Monolith Games: Conan which was backed way back at the beginning of 2015.dscn0995This is only part of the pledge, their are still some expansions to ship in wave 2.

Lastly we have Mantic Games The Walking Dead: All Out War. Which I backed at the beginning of this year (2016) dscn1024

The question is were do I start?

So its time for the final part of my deadzone Infestation “un-boxing”. Now as any one who read part 2 of this review will know that I had both the Veer-Myn, and Asterian boosters missing from the box. With that I posted a support ticket with mantic, filled out all the missing bits and sent it. A few days later I received a reply acknowledging my “ticket”, and that a number of items were out of stock and it would be sent as soon as the items arrived. Then last week I received an email saying it had been dispatched and the ticket was closed.

And then on Saturday it arrived.

First up the Veer-Myn from top left: Brood Mother, Night Terror, Chem-thrower, Progenitor (renamed Nightmare in the rule book) and old restic nightmares. All of them are made from the “new” plastic with the exception of the old nightmares. Out of them all the only model that I am not keen on is the Chem-thrower(I just don`t like the design). The details however are excellent.

Finally we have the Asterians. On the left are the Kalyshi and on the right are the drones. Now the Kalyshi were one of the sets of models I was looking forward to. And to be honest they are lovely models, but they are let down by being made in metal. As the weapons are very fine and the metal is very very soft, it can lead to them being bent (or snapped off). The 2nd one on the bottom row, had its weapon bent back on it self. The drones are the same as what were supplied with first DZ campaign, however I think one of the options was originally made in metal. But I could be wrong.

Now I have had plenty of time to read through the “new” DZ rule book, and I have to say it is a lot more clearer to read than its predecessor. I did try on many occasions to read the rules for the original DZ , but don`t ask me why I just could not get my head round it! However the V2 book seems to make a lot more sense to me. My only problem is the lack of “solo” rules (which were one of the reasons I backed DZ V1).

Hopefully I will be able to get to play the game properly this time round!

Lets try this again, as for some reason it did not post the last time!

So the other day my DZ:I KS pledge arrived, and any one who has followed my blog for a long time will know that I was hoping for DZ to be a replacement for 40K. Alas however it was not, first off was the “restic” material that the models were made from (which has been discussed in another post). And secondly were the rules, to me they were in a mess. And no matter how many times I read them, I just could not get my head round them.

However fast forward to April 2015 and mantic announce a “mini” KS project for a 2nd edition of DZ, with the aim of “tidying up the rules”. This time round it did not generate the same amount of cash as the first DZ KS but did well enough to get some new plastic models made in the form of the Veer-Myn crawlers/stalkers and the Nightmares, enforcer pathfinders and jet bikes, Forge Farther Steel Warriors, and some new scenery. And some other metal models (some of which changed to plastic). Now I was one of the early backers but I did sit on the fence for most of the project, as I was not overly sure that it was “value” for money. However as the project came to the end I decided to stick with it! And in the end I went for the Lockdown Pledge and a few add-ons, Industrial Quadrant, Ogre Terminator, 2 sprues of Steel Warriors, and a deluxe gaming mat.

Now  a number of things changed since the end of the project, firstly some of the models (resin and metals) were changed over to a different type of plastic. And secondly the rules had gone from a few tweaks to clean them up, to a very heavy edit with lots being removed. Both of these things caused a lot of frustration with backers.

Now with my pledge arriving the other day I went through everything to check that it was their and not damaged and I have to say that Mantic have done a better job with this project than they did with the original all the bags were labelled with what they included, but some where along the lines all 3 of the Veer-Myn boosters and the Asterian booster are missing.

First up we have the new Veer Myn Nightmares (left picture) and the Night crawlers/Stalkers.

Next we have the Pathfinders (left picture) and the Jetbikes.

DSCN0923 (2)Next up we have the Forge Father Steel Warriors.

Next we have the “new” plastic models, with the plague Aberation  (left picture). And (clock wise frome top left )Blaine on jet bike, Enforcer N7-117, and the Veer-Myn piper and rat swarms.

DSCN0926Next we have the few metal models starting from top left, Ogre terminator,(Rebs) Adrienne Nikolovski,  (Marauder) Skyscraper, (Rebs) Rin Hunter/Bounty Hunter, (Rebs) Teraton Shock Trooper.

Next we have the new “industrial” terrain. Now unlike the first DZ project all the terrain is “sprue less” even down to the connectors (thank god)!

I must say that I am impressed with the quality of the models, the “new” plastic is a step up from what was supplied with Mars Attacks and is miles better than “restic”. The new terrain also gets the thumbs up and will hark back to anyone who had the old “platform” kits that were made some years ago. The quality of the “deluxe” gaming mat is also excellent, after the 4 that I received with my Mars attacks pledge where each one was darker than the first.

Now all I need is the missing Veer-Myn, and Asterian boosters and I can finish off the review

I’ve been pretty quite the last week or so, down to a throat infection which knocked me for six. It did how ever give me some time to go through my first Deadzone kick starter stuff, which has mainly been untouched since I put together the Plague models a while ago. This was mainly down to the fact that I had never worked with Mantic’s “restic” material  before. Granted I did read up about it before starting the Plague models but the results were OK, but they could have been better.

Now resting up the last few weeks has given me the time to have a look at “restic” again (especially as DZ:I was due). Now first things first “restic” is described as a mix of resin and plastic. It holds detail very well and is as strong as resin, but as light as plastic. It can be reshaped in warm water, but needs to be glued with super glue. It is however quite hard to work with, and a lot of the first DZ kickstarter models had some pretty bad mold lines. Using a file or fine sandpaper creates a “fuzzy” area that needs to be removed. Scraping it off with a knife leaves the area looking flat (which is no good on a curved armour plate). And this is why my DZ models were boxed back up, I would say 90% of them needed a lot of prep work to get them ready.

However after reading a few guides on the internet I came across a guide that mentioned using a brass wire brush (like a toothbrush). At the time it seemed like a weird idea, but I had to try it! With luck I managed to find a brass wire brush in my old spray gun cleaning kit. Now the guide said to remove as much of the mold line as possible, and then to rub the brush back and forth over the area, and as I said it sounded weird. But to my surprise it worked!

And so armed with a way to clean the models I set about cleaning up the “Rebs” faction (one of the worst offenders for mold lines) and in all it took about 3-4 hours to clean up 18 models and glue them together.

This leads nicely on to, my Deadzone: Infestaion KS pledge turned up yesterday. I’ve opened the box and had a look inside but need to sort it out to see if its all their. which I intended to do later on today……………

Its come round to that time of year again, last week I had a sort out of my model collection  (it had nothing to do with my wife wanting to switch rooms around in the flat!) it did however let me sort things out. Going through everything, their were a number of Kick starter projects that I decided to part with, namely CMON`s Blood Rage game  and Battle Systems Sci-fi Terrain.

Both of which were picked up to use with other ranges ( BR was for Conan and the BS terrain was for AvP) however for one reason or another nothing has been mentioned about them for either game. And as much as I liked the Battle Systems terrain the modifications that need to be made (due to it being the 1st print run) would have driven me mad. And while I liked the Blood Rage models again nothing has been mentioned crossing the two over.

Also sitting on the fence at the moment is one of the Secret Weapon tablescapes tile sets that I received that was wrong. I had intended to use the Forgottorn city/ ruined temple for LOTR/ The Hobbit games, but it has remained in the box ever since I did a review of it.

at the moment I am also looking at sorting out my box of necromunda gangs, as well as some of my 40K orks.

I need to make some space as Deadzone: Infestation is meant to be shipping  soon, which neatly leads me on to the subject of Mantic Games.

Over the weekend I popped into my local games store to pick up some matt black spray. Now I normally buy it from one of the £1 shops in town, but the last lot that I picked up had a satin finish to it. Which while taking base colours well, it does not like dry brushing straight over it. But back to my local store, they have added sale section to the store with various end of lines, and overstocks. And I was surprised to see that a large selection of stuff was from Mantic Games, now I was a little shocked at this being as some of the stuff has only just came out.

However it transpires that all those Kick Starter projects that mantic do just don`t help independent retail sales, after all if mantic are going to throw loads of stuff at you cheap during a KS are you going to need anything at retail?. Which is a fair point, and to be truthful the only things I have picked up were some veer-myn and their grim cargo game (and that was some 4 years ago)

For me it is the lack of support for their games. Look at Deadzone V1, the project was started back in 2013 and finally ended around January 2015. During the project 3 expansion books and 2 extra races were added. Moving into March 2015 and we her about another Deadzone KS this time it is an “expansion” and “tidy up” of the rules however as time goes by the “tidy up” changes to a full rewrite, with a lot of the original gone. Since 2013 their has been no “new” support for DZ (and the same could also be said for Mars Attacks) and I dare say the same will apply to DZ:I, Warpath, and The Walking Dead.

Its a shame Mantic do make some good models but however their support of their systems and to the army of fans is next to zero, It seems if Mantic cannot fund it via Kick starter then it does not get made!

After looking at the first part of the wave 1.5 of shadows of brimstone lets have a look at what was left.

DSCN0878 (22)As you can see both the Frontier Town and Caverns of Cynder (as well as the doorways into darkness) come with their “retail” packaging.The box at the front contains all the cards, tokens and other gubbins to use the new models.


First up we have the Cynder expansion. Consisting of loads of new board sections and tokens, as well as the new lava men monsters.

Next we have the Frontier Town Expansion. Consisting of a new board, loads of location templates, and the new bandits (which can also be used in the mines)

Next we have the contents of the white box which is made up of 3 decks of cards, a token sheet, and the stat cards for the models. As well as the “hero” character sheets and as a nice little touch a a rules sheet collection book.

Next we have the Doorways into darkness expansion, its not really an expansion as such as all it does is add 15 new cards and the doorways are more of a 3D terrain element. On the right is the deluxe dark stone tokens (which were a paid add-on).

Lastly we have 5 more decks of cards (their is a 6th set that is in the white box) and 2 promo cards. The 3 on the left were paid add-ons, while the 2 on the right were part of the stretch goals (as was the 6th deck).

Overall I am pleased with what I got, and nothing was damaged in transit.

Its been sometime since I looked at the various Kick Starter projects that I have backed, so lets see what is happening.

All Quite On The Martian Front: Dead in the water! Alien Dungeon/Robot Peanut/Architects of War posted a update on the 28th of January which can been seen here.

All Quite Update #173

reading between the lines, it looks like too much was offered during the KS project to help the future of the product line!

Aliens Vs Predator: Things started to hot up over on the Facebook page over Christmas with various insults both towards prodos and members of staff. However wave 2 is meant to be finished by the end of the month (February) however I have not heard anything and the pledge manger still says “awaiting”. We will have to see what happens!

Shadows Of Brimstone: Hopefully wave 1.5 will be sent in the next few weeks the last few components are due to arrive on the 11th, however a little bit of a storm in a tea cup was started a few weeks ago when FFP announced that the additional hero packs would be made in resin rather then plastic as were the models in the base sets. This has upset a number of backers, but if they are better than the base heroes its a good thing!

Conan: Delayed until June due to the Chinese new year. Monolith have however been showing off models on  a semi regular basis, thus keeping backers “in the loop”.

Zombicide BP: CMON sent out the core game just before Christmas with the rest to follow around June time. I have not really had a look at BP yet, in fact its still in its shipping box!

Deadzone Infestation: A lot has changed since the DZ:I project finished. First up a change of material for some of the models. Most of the NON plastic (so restic/metal) models have now been changed to another type of plastic (hopefully not the shit that was used for Mars Attacks). And secondly The rules, seem to have changed quite a bit from the “tidy” up we were told about, now I have not read the beta rules yet as quite frankly they hurt my eyes to read. But from the comments I have read, a lot of what I liked has gone. But in all fairness I was not interested in the rules more the terrain and plastic Veer-myn. Hopefully March will see stuff start to deliver.

Warpath: Now I had hoped that DZ:I would have turned up before the pledge manger for warpath closed. However that has gone out the window with the DZ:I not being shipped until March and the warpath pledge manger closing on the 29th of February. In all fairness I have no intressed in the warpath rules just some of the models, but I wanted to see how the DZ:I models turned out before spending more money on warpath models.

Dropfleet Commander: I backed this mainly because I liked the ship models (as well as the ground combat game Dropzone commander) delivery is set for June 2016.

Now a few days ago Mantic launched their new KS for The Walking Dead miniatures game base on the comics (and not the TV show) however I am a little underwhelmed by the project at the moment. As it stands the core box contains 18 miniatures and the Atlanta expansion contains 6 miniatures their have also been 8 extra miniatures added from stretch goals giving a grand total of 32 models! all for $125.00 (£86.00) and at the moment I just cannot see any value in it. Who knows it may pick up some momentum we will just have to see, If not I will stick to Zombicide.